It’s not often you stumble across a ten-year-old New Zealander hosting a business podcast, but then again, most nine-year-olds aren’t like self-proclaimed budding entrepreneur Eli Smit. After discovering Smit as our Emerging Talent, we will be hosting season two of Smit's podcast on Idealog. In this episode, Smit chats with Tony Falkenstein, the founder and CEO of Just Life Group. The Auckland-based entrepreneur's story is filled with wins and losses and an array of business ventures from fax machines, to watches to sunglasses and water coolers. This episode explores mindsets around failure and help you consider what you are prepared to lose when it all goes wrong.