Design Work is a new podcast hosted by New Zealand designer Kate Darby that interviews trailblazing creatives from all over the globe about how they design and how they embrace new modes of working. In the fourth episode, Darby interviews Natasha Vermeulen, a freelance designer and illustrator based in Auckland. Vermeulen has worked at a number of award-winning design studios in New Zealand anow has now built her own independent practice, From the Mill — a direct translation of her last name. Her illustration style is playful, bright and sometimes warped, in the best way possible. In this episode, shechats about how she’s learnt to run a successful freelance design practice, getting comfortable with contracts and how going to gigs by yourself can make you a better freelancer.