"I don't even think of it as art," says Kiwi painter Dick Frizzell. "It's just what I do...
"I used to think of it as art."
The Kiwi painter opens up to his grandson Jimi about art, his childhood studying comics in Hastings, and why most of the people going on about creativity these days are just plain wrong.
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